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Would it be worth it to live in the yellow/red for digital freedom?
>"dw bro the vpn/mailserver/domain is overseas they can't touch us"
Why not, just live in the overseas country?
- Anonymous
5 days ago
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Chile and Greenland are the only viable red countries. Mongolia and most of eastern Europe aside from Russia and Ukraine are viable yellows with Poland perhaps being the best option, and Finland is the only acceptable green.
- Anonymous
5 days ago
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Do you recall where you learned that?
- Anonymous
5 days ago
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Travel.
- Anonymous
5 days ago
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i fail to see what's wrong with poland/czechia/baltics
- Anonymous
5 days ago
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Then congratulations, we agree because those all fall under the category of either "Poland" or "eastern Europe". It is my hope you improve your reading comprehension in the future.
I'd rather live in Czechia than in fricking Poland. They are much more chill and you don't have to worry about them stealing your stuff.
Depends on which part, but I otherwise understand
- Anonymous
5 days ago
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I'd rather live in Czechia than in fricking Poland. They are much more chill and you don't have to worry about them stealing your stuff.
- Anonymous
4 days ago
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Nobody believes you Pavel
- Anonymous
4 days ago
That name is Russian
I'd rather live in Czechia than in fricking Poland. They are much more chill and you don't have to worry about them stealing your stuff.
Good, we don't want any more immigrants here.
- Anonymous
5 days ago
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this chart is laughably outdated and has genuine mistakes in it. the different worlds either refers to their alignment in the cold war or their development, and there's a few countries that no longer fit those two definitions here.
also, valid answers to a country to live in for 'digital freedom' shouldn't include eritrea or north korea, since neither of those have any kind of freedoms period
- Anonymous
5 days ago
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That depends, can you openly criticize the government in said country without being punished for it?
- Anonymous
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I'm in Thailand and it doesn't feel third world tbh
- Anonymous
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The 1st/2nd/3rd world country system has been obsolete since (at least) the fall of the Soviet Union.
Pretty much every country in the world should be considered "first world" since there is no more second world.- Anonymous
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I guess you don't know how does it feel to live in India or some African countries with 0 infrastructure. I agree on the rest though, spent several years in China then eastern Europe and there are a lot of things to appreciate there (I could honesty just spend my life in China if paperwork wasn't hard). Never visited the US so impossible to say just from info available online. Also from the red, UAE is fantastic with its 0 taxes and the freedom from governments.
- Anonymous
5 days ago
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Even African sh*tholes are fully integrated into the global capitalist financial system. Traditionally this would make them "first world" countries.
- Anonymous
5 days ago
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A lot of things in the US is sort of based on the idea of the individual rather than the collective, and a lot of things are built up on that idea.
Very vague, but things will start to click when/if you visit.
- Anonymous
5 days ago
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>Pretty much every country in the world should be considered "third world" since there is no more second world.
FTFY- Anonymous
5 days ago
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Frick off Ivan.
- Anonymous
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>I'm in Thailand and it doesn't feel third world tbh
Thailand is 1.75 world. - Anonymous
5 days ago
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wait until you leave bangkok
- Anonymous
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With very few exceptions, the yellow/red are all far more oppressive than the green counties when it comes to "digital freedom."
- Anonymous
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Even some to green countries are literal dogsh*t, like Spain, Greece or Turkey
>for digital freedom?
It's not worth it. Unless you do so for money, you should stay on your home c**t. - Anonymous
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US, Canada and France are not a first world country for at least 2 decades now.
And Ukraine is 3rd world country now because of the war.
UAE is definitely 1st world country.
This map needs update.- Anonymous
5 days ago
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>UAE is definitely 1st world country.
kek good one anon - Anonymous
5 days ago
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The UAE is a poorly-written satire of the USA when it comes to income disparity and quality of life.
- Anonymous
5 days ago
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How much money can you make online? You will need to bribe the local police and mayor/chief/warlord. You will also need to pay for a lot of public goods so that local people don't resent having a rich 1st worlder live among them. Don't show off your wealth beyond that though, or you'll attract thieves.
Another consideration is broadband coverage. If your main concern is digital freedom you need the physical infrastructure to exercise that freedom. Realistically that means you need to be in one of the larger cities, which in turn exposes you to a lot more crime. If you don't mind living secluded behind locked gates and electric fences you might be fine. - Anonymous
5 days ago
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wtf does "digital freedom" mean to you, who are you? and only you can know if it'd be "worth it"
anyways
>can you
Yes. Many DNM and pirate lords have alternative residency and citizenship-by-investment passports in case everything is fricked and they need to quickly get smuggled to a place without extradition or cooperation, or they just want to be closer to their coloc racks. Surely you are also familiar with the globetrotting and very specific abodes of Snowden/whistleblowers and people like the Scihub lady. - Anonymous
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You can paint Australia in yellow
- Anonymous
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Red*
- Anonymous
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i lived in the yellow part and the green part. i liked the yellow a lot more
- Anonymous
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You are an utter moron. Authoritarian government -which most yellow/red countries are- are censoring their Internet Access way harder than the green ones. Not for the same reason, though.
.t A yuro living in Africa. - Anonymous
5 days ago
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southern italy was practically 3rd world when I lived there in 08
Gangs run everything, there was no sanitation, the tap water was not potable and there were frequent warnings to not even shower with the water because there were too many carcinogens
frick the army for making me live there as a child - Anonymous
5 days ago
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>romania
>first world- Anonymous
5 days ago
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>$43,179 GDP PPP per cap
>0.827 HDI
>EU,NATO,Schengen member state
>semi presidential republic (democracy)
>not first world
bait used to be believable- Anonymous
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>britan
>first world - Anonymous
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>muh HDI PPPPPP numbers cope
Black person, those mean sh*t if your country is a sh*thole
- Anonymous
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>australia
>half the balkans
>fricking turkey with 90% inflation
>first world- Anonymous
5 days ago
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first world != perfect, just generally richer, more democratic, western aligned etc
but its a silly naming scheme anyways - Anonymous
4 days ago
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I mean, turkey still is a horrible for the average inhabitant and erdogan is elelected as democratically as Putin. Our leaders just don't mention it because of Nato.
- Anonymous
4 days ago
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North Korea is and always has been second world. It has never changed its alliance with Russia and China. Mexico is neutral and therefore has always been third world.
- Anonymous
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Why is Chinese Taiwan third world?
- Anonymous
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I genuinely believe that if every red and yellow country disappeared overnight my life would not be affected in the slightest, but if every green country disappeared the red and yellow ones would collapse in a week max (except the baltics)
- Anonymous
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First world == US aligned
Second world == Soviet Union aligned
Third world == Non-aligned.Cease with using these outdated distinctions; they don't make sense anymore since 1991.
- Anonymous
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since third world basically shifted to mean sh*thole, most people use them like
first world = western, developed, rich
second world = developing or rich with non-democratic system
third world = sh*thole- Anonymous
4 days ago
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this is a pretty reasonable definition that gets to what people actually mean when they call a country X world
- Anonymous
5 days ago
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>UMMM ACKSHUALLY
are you literal autistic reddittards unable to tell that people have been using "first world" to mean developed for at least 30 years?
>UGHHH YOU SHOULD USE LE PROPER WORDS!!1 THIS IS SO LE CONFUSING!!!
sure, and you should adapt to words meaning many different things you spastic sperg- Anonymous
5 days ago
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If you care so much about the distinction just say poor or rich. People usually only distinguish between the first and the third world anyway. If you can abitrarily assign meanings to words just do away with communication altogether.
- Anonymous
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>If you can abitrarily assign meanings to words just do away with communication altogether.
i use "developed", "developing" and "sh*thole", but i am aware that "first/second/third world" will stick for a while and i work with that assumption.
if you can't handle the ambiguities that happen in everyday language, where people have different contexts or education levels, give up trying to communicate and have a nice day.
inability to accept other worldviews is literally an autism symptom, by the way.
- Anonymous
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These maps are moronic, it's pretty stupid to compare quality of life in countries such as Chile, Mexico, Brasil, Argentina or Uruguay with real sh*tholes like most of Africa, India or Pakistan.
They should create a "2nd world" category, adding Chile to the same basket as Ethiopia is fricking moronic.
- Anonymous
4 days ago
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That map is so outdated, it feels like something from 1980 before soviet union collapsed
- Anonymous
4 days ago
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That's because the first world/second world/third world rubric is 100% Cold War. The first world were the western democracies and their allies, the second world was the eastern communist states and their allies, and the third world was the nonaligned world. Today "third world" is a slang term for sh*thole, but it really just means nonaligned.
- Anonymous
4 days ago
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The map is outdated and isn't relevant.
Like Spain sure, is first world by Cold War political standards, but has more digital freedom than some of the yellow European countries. - Anonymous
4 days ago
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australia, greece, italy, spain and portugal are undeveloped Black person filled sh*tholes
- Anonymous
4 days ago
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true, we should never leave the usa
- Anonymous
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>Would it be worth it to live in the yellow/red for digital freedom?
Unlikely unless you are a hard core off-grid self sufficient individual. Most of the red will be cut off from global trade soon and yellow may follow depending on US/China relations. Most of those places won't have stable internet for long and would be at the whim of US/Starlink when they lose local/long-haul land based connections.- Anonymous
4 days ago
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>"I want cut pajeets the heccin internet"
>pajeets make their own internet
>"NO, not like that"
Which one is it?- Anonymous
4 days ago
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Uh? Let them, why the frick do I care what they do?
- Anonymous
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>"I want cut brown frens the heccin internet"
No idea what you are trying to say.
- Anonymous
4 days ago
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>global trade
>red and yellow cut off
not very global lol, sounds a lot like this "international community" i keep hearing about
- Anonymous
4 days ago
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First and second world weren't "tier 1 and tier 2." The term "third world" was a reference to the idea that there was the free world, there was the communist world, and then there's everyone else just trying to get by without starving to death. Calling Russia and China 2nd world countries is very insulting to them.
- Anonymous
4 days ago
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>Calling Russia and China 2nd world countries is very insulting to them.
No it's not, it's just a fact. They're the other guys. There's western liberal democracy (i.e., the zenith of contemporary civilization) and then there's the guys who are doing it wrong. That's the 2nd world.- Anonymous
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>There's western liberal democracy
It's cute that you think that.In reality, there's America
Then there's the five eyes Alliance
Then there's America's Asian economic puppets of Japan and South Korea.
Then there's a whole bunch of guppies who Then there's America's THINK they're America's allies but aren't really.
Then there's China.
Then there's Russia
Then there's everyone else.
- Anonymous
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>Calling Russia and China 2nd world countries is very insulting to them.
It is and should be. China depend entirely on 1st world countries to exist. Cut off even 80% of their imports and their populations would be decimated in less than a year. They were propped up by the US and global trade empowered them. Global trade is coming to an end.
- Anonymous
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The whole map should be red.
- Anonymous
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>t. american POV
- Anonymous
4 days ago
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This except switzerland, iceland and maybe japan. Ive been in most greens countries and I wont call them first world.
- Anonymous
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>Chile
>Uruguay
>Third world
Keep thinking that, keeps the subhuman rejects from the "first world" out.- Anonymous
4 days ago
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Uruguay sucks ass tbh. Highest murder rate in the Southern Cone and everything outside Montevideo is poor.
- Anonymous
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as a citizen of red I would like to tell you that there's no freedom.
might go try yellow some time in the future - Anonymous
4 days ago
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Second worlder here. Define your vision of digital freedom. Might be that you wont like how we do things here.
- Anonymous
4 days ago
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Digital freedom is when the government is even worse than the NSA but IQfyiggers claim they're based and redpilled.
- Anonymous
4 days ago
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Here in Peru the government is too busy tearing itself apart and stealing from it's people to ever worry about what you are doing on your computer. Hell, even if they did care about that, they're too tech illiterate to do anything about it. I don't know why I even bother with schizo measures like using OpenBSD on a troonybooted Thinkpad. For all I know, you could use internet explorer to download illegal material on an unencrypted windows machine and you'll be fine for the rest of your life, unless they catch you for something else (like those pedophiles who are caught for being predators and then the police discovers they had TBs of e-girl pics on their PCs).
- Anonymous
4 days ago
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The advantage of hosting your sh*t in a foreign power bloc is that they won't share your data with your own rulers' spies. But if you move to the foreign power bloc all of a sudden your data is very interesting to their spies and now it's your old bloc's places that are safe to host on.
Always host your sh*t in enemy power blocs, never your own. Doesn't matter which bloc you're in. If you're in the zogged west, host your sh*t in Russia. If you're in israelitetin's Russia, host your sh*t in the west. Etc.